[identity profile] kippurbird.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] kippurcritiquesbadbooks
All right people. Welcome to book four out of three in Paolini's Inheritance Trilogy.

And boy do we start off with a bang. The first couple of lines just made me facepalm.

Is that a good start? I dunno.

What are these lines, you may ask!?

This is from the summary, where we're starting.

In the beginning, there were dragons: proud, fierce, and independent. Their scales were like gems, and all who gazed upon them despaired, for their beauty was great and terrible.

And they lived alone in the land of Alagaësia for ages uncounted.



Okay. So. In the beginning of what? Were there dragons before there was land? Also beauty makes people despair? Is it a sort of "OH I WILL NEVER BE AS BEAUTIFUL AS THEM I MIGHT AS WELL GO AND BE DEPRESSED?!" And finally, if the dragons were alone, then WHO WAS GAZING UPON THEM AND DESPAIRING?! These few lines are pretty and sound good. I mean people fear dragons, they're so fierce and whatnot. But if the dragons are along, then who can gaze upon them and be afraid? And why does their beauty the cause of the despair from the non-existent people?

Unless they were all despairing while looking at each other? So they whenever they saw another dragon they fled?

Then the dwarf god makes the dwarves from the stone of the Hadarac desert. Which, if I recall correctly, wasn't always a desert. And even if it was, it was a sandy sort, not a stony sort. So were they made of sand? I think Paolini had them created from the desert stone instead of mountain stone because otherwise it would have been... cliche.

Hah.

But this brings up another question. If the god made the dwarves, who made the dragons? Did they just pop into existence? Where did they come from? It just says in the beginning there were dragons. Did the dragons come before the gods?

Do you see what I'm saying here? If something created one thing, where would the other things come from. This is going back to the sort of cheat around that happened when you got the elf vs dwarf thing on religion. He didn't want the elves to be wrong but he didn't want to sound all like the dwarves were stupid or something so he gave the dwarves a god, but still made the elves right because they didn't have a god. So, he wants both of them to be right. The elves have no god, so they just sort of Show Up on the continent. No literally.

The dragons and the dwarves fight for ... some reason not given. Then the elves show up from across the "silver sea". And they too war with the dragons... but the elves were strong than the dwarves. What the hell does that have to do with anything? I guess it would be because they were able to possibly destroy the dragons... but you have to admit the dwarves are pretty tough if they've managed to fight the dragons for...

You know, I have no clue how long they were fighting. There's no timescale here.

It's supposed to be dramatic, but... I have no time scale. I'll say a week.

And they make a truce and there were dragon riders! Which sounds like the dragons got the short end of the stick. Still. A thousand years pass.

Humans show up. From where, I don't know. How were they created? I don't know.

At least we know that the elves are some sort of plant creatures the procreate by budding.

Urgals also show up and from where, I don't know. How were they created, I don't know.

And then the Ra'zac who are the hunters in the dark and the eaters of men’s flesh.

Uh-huh.

See the thing is you can't say how one race was created if you're not going to show how all the others were created.

In Thud by Terry Pratchett we're given the troll version of how all creature were created. Men, dwarves and trolls. And they were all created by Tak. They were all given an origin. The dwarves probably disagree with this origin, but they were all given one in this story because these are the people who the trolls deal with. That exist. If you are going to mention how one thing was created in an origin story or a history, then you need to mention how all of them were created.

Moving on.

The humans show up and they join the dragon rider club. Why? They're pretty.

Actually it doesn't say that. But it doesn't say why they got to join and the others didn't. So, pretty works as much as anything else does.

And then Galby shows up. And then he convinces thirteen others to join him. It mentions that he enslaves Shruikan but not that his previous dragon died and all that horrid stuff that might make us sympathetic to him just a little. God forbid that happen.

And for two and eight... why are we suddenly saying things like two and eighty?

Anyway and this happened. And then that happened. And you know, the blue egg was stolen and the dragons were killed and the Foresworn were killed. And Ayra carried the egg around for twenty five years. And there's no mention of any of the horrible things that Galby did during his something and something long reign just that he reigned supreme which is awful, just awful.

And the over use of the word "And" every other paragraph it seems like is driving me crazy. He's just listing off events here that happened in the books and it is starting to sound like the parts in the bible where we get to the begats parts. You know, the "And Roger lived to a hundred and twenty and he begat Norman and Lily and Harry who was his only daughter and Norman begat Sherlock on Judy who was the daughter of the First Lord of Cheese and begat Sydny on his second wife Rose who was the daughter of Jorah who was the son of ... Tom Tom the Piper's son and Sherlock begat Simon who turned into a monkey. And people were glad of this for Simon was a noonie head. And thus the generations from Roger to Simon were seven and twenty."

Yeah. It basically sums up every "major" event in the books. Just lists them. It's boring and I just skim over them.

I honestly don't know why he needs to put these in (except as a word count buffer? Did he have a quota?)

If you've read along with me or if you've read the books, you know what happen.

It ends with But still the Varden continued, and even now they march deeper into the Empire, toward the capital, Urû’baen, wherein sits Galbatorix, proud, confident, and disdainful, for his is the strength of the dragons.

What we have here is Paolini trying to copy the biblical style of writing. However there's a problem with this. While the bible is an important book, according to some the most important book of all time, it is not good reading. I mean this from a literary easy to read and engaging point of view. Especially the parts that he's trying to copy.

Mimicking the bible's style does not make your work biblical. Much like mimicking Tolkien does not make your writing Tolkienesque. The stories in the bible are pretty epic but they're told in very compact ways that aren't, when it gets down to it, really good for a coherent novel structure. And yes, I realize he's trying to sum up, but there were better choices he could have used. OR just not put it in at all.

I had this complaint the last two books too, didn't I?

Date: 2012-01-09 06:10 am (UTC)
ceitfianna: (charlie cat bullshit)
From: [personal profile] ceitfianna
I can't read the gazing and despairing line without picturing Galadriel and that makes it even harder to take the rest seriously.

Ands can be such an easy and lazy writing habit to get into. I know I see myself falling into them and have to stop myself because they sound stupid.

Date: 2012-01-09 06:27 am (UTC)
ceitfianna: (Hatter is bemused)
From: [personal profile] ceitfianna
Mental protection or something because it's just too easy a leap? I always think of and lists like that as a storytelling device especially oral storytelling.

If you're relying on it too much in writing and you're not purposefully setting out to do something that says clearly, I am doing something like Homer's lists then don't or the Bible begats. Sorry, my Classical thinking was showing there as that's my first association with the begats later. It can work but it can become a writing crutch quickly.

Date: 2012-01-09 06:45 am (UTC)
ceitfianna: (Greek icon)
From: [personal profile] ceitfianna
Yeah, I figured that's what he was trying to do but it's hard to do. That kind of epic phrasing when done well can be powerful and evocative but it's hard to get right.

Oh yes, I've done oral storytelling and the way I think about my words is different from how I treat them for written work. In college, I actually wrote my senior paper on oral and literate styles of writing in Greek and Roman lyric poetry, it's a topic I can go on about for a while.

Date: 2012-01-09 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] white-wolf03.livejournal.com
Considering how many other "shout-outs" he's made to LotR, I don't see any possible way it couldn't be deliberate.

Date: 2012-01-09 08:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anarchicq.livejournal.com
THIS!
When I first read that quote my jaw dropped. How can he be so damned BLATANT and not called on it?!

Date: 2012-01-09 08:26 am (UTC)
ceitfianna: (Bones Oh Please)
From: [personal profile] ceitfianna
I'm not sure, lazy editors?

Date: 2012-01-09 07:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dungeonwriter.livejournal.com
I usually avoid mocking, but did he just paraphrase genesis nearly identically?


Genesis 1

The Beginning

 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.



Date: 2012-01-09 07:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dungeonwriter.livejournal.com
Not my first choice to use in a non Christian society and from a bible scholar, sets up a hard sell. Even if the bible is not considered the most literary of fiction, it's the most famous book after Harry Potter. I would have gone Norse, or maybe epic of Gilgamesh, far less well known in American society, but again, they don't pay me the big bucks to decide.

Date: 2012-01-09 07:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swankivy.livejournal.com
Heh. I made that same point about "WHO IS DESPAIRING ABOUT THE DRAGONS IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE THERE??" and "WHERE DID EVERYONE ELSE COME FROM IF THE DWARVES WERE FORMED BY A GOD FROM STONE?"

Date: 2012-01-09 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] swankivy.livejournal.com
I LOVE seeing other people find things as absurd as I did. I'm really glad you picked up on it.

Here's a question.

Date: 2012-01-13 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackmanga.livejournal.com
How can dragons live alone in Alagaesia for ages uncounted? Did they eat each other for food? How can there be an ecosystem that is developed enough to support dragons, apex carnivores, with no other animals?

Date: 2012-01-09 08:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] distinctvaguens.livejournal.com
Yep ripping off the LOTR wasn't EPIC enough, let's rip off the Bible! Which, as you pointed out, isn't exactly the easiest style to read. Considering it was written a really long time ago AND a translation of the origin text, it makes sense that happens. But Paolini, Paolini must just think he is so cool for... finding a style even sloppier than his normal plod.

Great job by the way. Loved your other sporks. They were a strong inspiration to do some of my own.
Edited Date: 2012-01-09 08:33 am (UTC)

Date: 2012-01-09 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torylltales.livejournal.com
I did a count of the use of And and But as first words in the prologue: more than 50% of the prologue's sentences begins with either And or But.

That's far, far more than necessary.

Date: 2012-01-10 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonsong12.livejournal.com
Oh excellent! Now I can add this to my watch list so I can see when updates pop up! Thanks!

Also, being that I am following the LotR posts over on Mark Reads presently, it's hilarious to go from that amazing bit of high fantasy to see Paolini's hamfisted attempts...I mean, this still reads like something written by a high schooler. You'd think he'd have evolved by now!

I got the first couple of books from thie series as gifts, but I very much prefer exploring them through your critiques. Love the posts! I can't wait to read more!

Date: 2012-01-24 06:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wonsab.livejournal.com
The Tak story is from the dwarves; the stuff about writing and dwarves reaching the proper height and being endarkened and the trolls being an afterthought is kind of a clue. :)

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